This is a piece of rather sickening news.
The three jihadist convicted of trying to bring down the civilian aircraft.One of them was planning to bring a foster baby on board the plane for their suicide mission to distract security, so that they can bypass security.
Amazing.
jihadist trying to carry foster baby on board to conceal bomb making material
Steven Weinberg once quoted.
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
-woody
September 13, 2009 at 3:14 am
“But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.”
What makes you so sure these are good people? They are, after all, jihadists, people that sought to kill others for no other reason than to spread a religion that demands the killing of those who do not follow that religion. As far as that goes, what makes Islam any better than basic Satanism? I’ve known a lot of Muslims over the years, three that I would trust on any subject, hundreds that I wouldn’t trust as far as I could throw them. From what they have shown me, I can’t judge 1.5 billion Muslims by the three good ones I have known, but I can judge the 1.5 billion by the hundreds that engage in jihad or support, financially or morally, the jihadists that seek to kill us all.
September 13, 2009 at 3:28 am
dcbarton,
Good point.
-woody
September 13, 2009 at 5:45 am
I have some reservations about the numbers. I agree that Islam isn’t a religion. It’s more of an ideology, including religion. But every person needs to be judged individually. I can’t judge 1.5 million Muslims by the few I know personally.
September 13, 2009 at 1:11 pm
However, I can judge the whole by the many. I can judge them by their reaction and dancing in the streets of the Palestinian Territories when the Twin Towers fell, by the numbers that wear suicide bombs, deliver car bombs, etc. And I can judge the whole by the fact that almost no(some do but most don’t) Muslims will stand up and call these acts “wrong.”
September 13, 2009 at 1:21 pm
dcbarton,
Two things here , one is most “chose” to remain silence. Second is, media do not give wide and fair coverage to those so-called willing to stand out to condemn the act. But the fact is, those that dare to stand and speak out often faced backlash from the own community.
One example, Dr Zuhdi Jasser, he stood out to condemn the violent act, he ended up in cartoon portraying him as a “dog” on leash.
-woody
September 13, 2009 at 1:46 pm
portrayed in a cartoon is violent? Bush was portrayed in plenty of carttoons, I don’t consider that to be violent.
I will agree there is violence used, violence is used with every suicide bomb, every hijacking, but violence can only be stopped by standing up to those that commit the violence.
Fox News has been on top of each case where a Muslim was willing to stand up and declare the Islamic violence wrong, there haven’t been that many. In fact, there seem to be more that are willing to live in this country and raise funds for the terrorists than there are that are willing to say violence is wrong.
If Islam wants to change my mind about Islam, Islam must make the effort to show me something different about Islam.
September 13, 2009 at 2:35 pm
dcbarton,
Agree ..
I wrote last year, after the horrific Mumbai attack,
http://woodyooi.wordpress.com/2008/11/29/connection/
it seemed that more people are worry about the Bad publicity to the religion rather than the losses of innocent lives.
http://woodyooi.wordpress.com/2008/12/01/after/
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woody